{"id":22627,"date":"2025-09-24T08:12:05","date_gmt":"2025-09-24T12:12:05","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/idavox.com\/?p=22627"},"modified":"2025-09-24T08:12:07","modified_gmt":"2025-09-24T12:12:07","slug":"no-the-u-s-cannot-designate-domestic-groups-or-political-ideologies-terrorists","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/idavox.com\/index.php\/2025\/09\/24\/no-the-u-s-cannot-designate-domestic-groups-or-political-ideologies-terrorists\/","title":{"rendered":"No, the U.S. Cannot Designate Domestic Groups or Political Ideologies Terrorists!"},"content":{"rendered":"\n

Why we aren’t worried about what Trump is trying to pull. <\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n

Civil Liberties Defense Center<\/a><\/h2>\n\n\n\n

Yesterday the Trump regime signed yet another executive order<\/a> that plainly states what many of us have known for a while now\u2014that the cabal currently in power are unabashed fascists. Donald Trump declared that those opposed to fascism, those who are anti-fascist in this county \u2014 a country that has fought wars against fascism \u2014 are now labeled as \u201cdomestic terrorists\u201d by this current government \u2014 in essence, enemies of the state. Trump and his minions do not have the constitutional or statutory authority to create a terrorist designation pertaining to an amorphous political belief. Period. The First Amendment continues to protect freedom of speech and association, and would thus prevent any Congressional attempt to enact a law that would allow the US government to designate US groups as terrorist organizations based simply upon their political activities. But, as we know with this regime, there is the law as it has existed for over 100 years, and then there is their attack on the law.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

This EO targets \u201cAntifa\u201d which is obviously short for \u201cantifascist.\u201d  Antifascists are opposed to fascists. Fascism rejects democracy. Fascists sign executive orders (no democratic process involved) that seek to malign or punish their political opponents, because that is the only way they can take more control from the people in a democratic country. Fascists attempt to undermine democratic elections, erase actual history, and manipulate words to falsely justify their propaganda. This EO is another example of Trump\u2019s war of words \u2014 an attempt to recreate reality in order to solidify a fascist dictatorship.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Antifa is not an organization or an \u201centerprise.\u201d  There are no \u201cmembers.\u201d It is a social movement opposed to fascism, similar to feminism or anti-racism \u2014 not a single group or entity.  One of our trial experts explained fascism thusly:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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\u201cFascism may be defined as a form of political behavior marked by obsessive preoccupation with community decline, humiliation, or victimhood and by compensatory cults of unity, energy, and purity, in which a mass-based party of committed nationalist militants, working in uneasy, but effective collaboration with traditional beliefs, abandons democratic liberties and pursues with redemptive violence and without ethical or legal constraints, goals of internal cleansing and external expansion.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

The majority of Americans hold antifascist political beliefs. Those beliefs, opinions, and associations are the foundations of US First Amendment constitutional safeguards. Antifascist beliefs are also closely intertwined with anti-racist beliefs. During the 1930\u2019s Spanish Civil War, many Americans went to fight fascists (including my great-uncle). As the Smithsonian explains<\/a> in \u201cA Brief History of Anti-Fascism,\u201d about one of these American antifascists:<\/p>\n\n\n\n

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\u201cEluard Luchell McDaniels<\/a> traveled across the Atlantic in 1937 to fight fascists in the Spanish Civil War, where he became known as \u2018El Fantastico\u2019 for his prowess with a grenade. As a platoon sergeant with the Mackenzie-Papineau Battalion of the International Brigades, the 25-year-old African American from Mississippi commanded white troops and led them into battle against the forces of General Franco, men who saw him as less than human. It might seem strange for a Black man to go to such lengths for the chance to fight in a white man\u2019s war so far from home \u2014 wasn\u2019t there enough racism to fight in the United States? \u2014 but McDaniels was convinced that anti-fascism and anti-racism were one and the same. \u2018I saw the invaders of Spain [were] the same people I\u2019ve been fighting all my life,\u2019 Historian Peter Carroll quotes McDaniels as saying<\/a>. \u2018I\u2019ve seen lynching and starvation, and I know my people\u2019s enemies.\u2019 McDaniels was not alone in seeing anti-fascism and anti-racism as intrinsically connected; the anti-fascists of today are heirs to almost a century of struggle against racism.\u201d<\/p>\n<\/blockquote>\n\n\n\n

When Hitler\u2019s fascist regime and the Axis powers seized control of Germany, other global countries, including the US, France, UK, USSR, and many others, became the Allies<\/a>, who ultimately won that war and stuffed fascism back down into the dark evil place where it has mostly slumbered. It may take similar global action to stop the US from spiraling into full-blown fascism, and it could take generations to restore democracy if it is lost.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Weak political leaders must also target their political opponents\u2019 funding in order to maintain fake power (think political ads, campaign staff, political signs, etc.).  Because antifascist beliefs<\/em> are not an organization or enterprise, and because a belief <\/em>does not have \u201cmembers,\u201d it is also obvious that \u201cAntifa\u201d is not funded. It never has been. It doesn\u2019t have a mailbox or bank account or hierarchy. Clearly the Trump fascist regime wants to go after George Soros, a billionaire liberal philanthropist, and is using this as an obvious weapon to actually go after democrat-leaning funding sources, which are in fact the regime\u2019s political opponents. The goal is to target and destroy the funding of the regime\u2019s political opponents; money they will use to oppose fascist authoritarians and their kind within the democratic electoral process. A truly fair election will likely remove the fascist dictator by overwhelming popular vote \u2014  so of course this fascist regime is also targeting the electoral system. To date, Soros has not sent a check to \u201cAntifa.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The Trump regime tried labeling antifascists as domestic terrorists in a 2017 EO as well, and that failed. Trump\u2019s own FBI director said<\/a> that enforcing that EO would be difficult because antifa is an ideology, not an organization, and it lacks the hierarchical structure that would usually be required to designate it as a federal terror group. Nothing has changed within the US Constitution or our system of laws, or the facts about antifascists in the U.S. during this intervening time period.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The wording of this EO is what we call in lawyer-talk \u201csloppy.\u201d For instance, the EO references \u201cmaterial support\u201d provided by anyone \u201cclaiming to act on behalf of Antifa\u201d to \u201cany and all illegal operations \u2014 especially those involving terrorist actions\u201d \u2014 without even citing to the federal material support statute, 18 U.S.C. 2339A. The existing legal precedent regarding \u201cmaterial support\u201d comes from prosecutions related to material support of FOREIGN<\/em> terrorist organizations (and a few states with domestic material support statutes). The US Secretary of State is authorized to designate foreign <\/em>groups as \u201cforeign terrorist organizations\u201d (FTOs). No congressional approval is needed for the Secretary to make this designation, but they must inform Congress seven days prior to doing so. Once designated, it is illegal under US law to give money to an FTO \u2014 and, significant to the Trump regime, the US could also freeze any assets held by members of the designated group in a US bank, and members could be threatened with sanctions.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

TO BE CLEAR, THERE IS NO EQUIVALENT DOMESTIC TERRORISM LAW, which is why this Trump declaration is just bullshit without legal authority. There is no federal statute that would allow him to designate a domestic, US-based group as a terrorist organization. In part, this is because of the serious First Amendment concerns that would obviously result. Constitutional law scholars all agree that this \u201cdeclaration\u201d has no legal impact.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

In the 2010 US Supreme Court case Holder v. Humanitarian Law Project<\/em>, 561 US 1 (2010)<\/a>, a case involving foreign organizations, Justice John Roberts ruled that attempts to criminalize support for designated domestic <\/em>terrorist groups would not \u201csurvive First Amendment scrutiny,\u201d and \u201cCongress could [not] extend the same prohibition on material support at issue [in this case regarding a foreign org] to domestic organizations.\u201d Will Roberts overrule himself? Not likely\u2026.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

Holder <\/em>and the First Amendment remain the law of the land, and this executive order is flagrantly unconstitutional. It doesn\u2019t stand a chance of passing legal muster in a legitimate courtroom.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

But that doesn\u2019t prevent this EO from causing harm to Americans until the judicial branch of government finds it to be unconstitutional and illegal. The Trump regime will likely use this EO to increase surveillance and criminalization of its adversaries (increasingly similar to Putin\u2019s Russia, where political opponents are murdered in prisons). They may attempt to use it to target, threaten, and punish people who openly protest the regime\u2019s policies and actions. When the FBI has carried out previous domestic terrorism investigations against neo-Nazi groups like the Base and Atomwaffen Division, US prosecutors used criminal enterprise laws like RICO. We\u2019ve seen an uptick in the State\u2019s use of RICO to target political expression \u2014 e.g.<\/em> the Atlanta Cop City cases, where a judge recently tossed out the abusive and illegal use of RICO against activists.<\/p>\n\n\n\n

The regime may use this designation to place the military in US cities to enforce the will of the dictator, and justify it as \u201cfighting antifa protests.\u201d To be clear, the protests happening around the country are not Antifa protests. They are the American people standing up to disgusting, cowardly, racist, ignorant executive branch power. No matter what the new bullshit of the day is, know that CLDC will be there to defend you in court if needed. We offer pro bono legal representation for people who are targeted for their political activism and constitutionally protected activities. We have lots of know your rights and risks legal resources<\/a> too\u2014even if you think your rights will be trampled upon, you still need to assert them in order to be able to raise them in Court.  It\u2019s critically important for Americans to continue to fight against fascism and to defend our imperfect democracy.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"

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