{"id":10966,"date":"2022-04-02T16:38:25","date_gmt":"2022-04-02T20:38:25","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/idavox.com\/?p=10966"},"modified":"2022-09-29T07:02:30","modified_gmt":"2022-09-29T11:02:30","slug":"dealing-with-nazis-and-a-conflict-that-should-not-have-happened","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/idavox.com\/index.php\/2022\/04\/02\/dealing-with-nazis-and-a-conflict-that-should-not-have-happened\/","title":{"rendered":"Dealing with Nazis &#8211; and a Conflict That Should Not Have Happened"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<p><strong>Rod Webber speaks on how the Nationalist Social Club tried to pick a fight with the Dropkick Murphys and the unfortunate conflicts that transpired last weekend. This is not in any way trying to start a rift with the band but damnit this has to be said. We can resolve this.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<!--more-->\n\n\n\n<h2 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Rod Webber<\/h2>\n\n\n\n<p>I don\u2019t want to spend my time writing about Neo-Nazis. And I sure as shit don\u2019t want to get my head beaten to a bloody pulp for confronting them\u2026 But, as the saying goes, if someone shows up at your rally with a Nazi flag, and no one says or does something about it, you are at a Nazi rally.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The same concept applies to parades.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Sadly, as many already know, <a href=\"https:\/\/boingboing.net\/2022\/03\/29\/dropkick-murphys-challenge-cowardly-neo-nazis-to-a-fight.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Neo-Nazis did in fact show up<\/a> at the Saint Patrick\u2019s Day Parade in Boston on March 20th\u2026 And according to most of the local papers, (including The Boston Globe), no one said or did anything about these Neo-Nazis.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On the surface, it was harmless enough\u2014right? Leprechauns and Lucky Charms and streams of green beer flowing through the streets\u2026 And Neo-Nazis\u2026&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Saint Paddy\u2019s Parade is <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nytimes.com\/2017\/03\/11\/us\/boston-st-patricks-day-parade-gay-veterans-group.html\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">now inclusive of the LGBTQ community<\/a>\u2026 And it\u2019s got Neo-Nazis.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>It\u2019s been nineteen years since a drunken <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishtimes.com\/news\/weekend-st-patrick-s-day-parade-ends-in-gunfire-1.468304\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">gunman shot four people at the Holyoke Parade<\/a> in 2003\u2026 So, shouldn\u2019t <em>that<\/em> absolve Boston of being chummy with the Neo-Nazis?<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Just so you don\u2019t think I\u2019m shitting on Boston or The Irish, I was born in Boston, I\u2019m English-Irish-German, and I was<a href=\"https:\/\/www.imdb.com\/title\/tt1247653\/fullcredits\/?ref_=tt_cl_sm\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\"> Director of Photography for The Dropkick Murphys \u201cThe Meanest of Times\u201d documentary<\/a>. That said, having grown up around it, I have always seen Saint Patrick\u2019s Day as a celebration of Irish Supremacy. So, maybe we shouldn\u2019t have been surprised that Neo-Nazis saw the parade as an opportunity to spread white supremacy.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I know my wife Lauren Pespisa and I weren\u2019t surprised.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As a little background on the group\u2014 NSC is the abbreviation for <a href=\"https:\/\/www.adl.org\/resources\/backgrounders\/nationalist-social-club-nsc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Nationalist Socialist Club<\/a>, (nazi club). And 131 refers to the letters of the alphabet ACA, or \u201canti-communist action.\u201d Three of their members are now doing time in prison for violent crimes\u2014 one of them for being a pedophile\u2014 and this isn\u2019t our first time dealing with these CHUDs. They\u2019ve been showing up at rallies around the NorthEast for a couple of years\u2014 but recently their numbers have swelled\u2014 likely as a result of members of Patriot Front filling their ranks.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Every other week, they\u2019ve been doing <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/AntifaGarfield\/status\/1496353593607303170?s=20&amp;t=aSGF1qTP-XIPw_RVru6oMQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">a new banner drop<\/a>. Anti-fascists are quick to get them right down and set them on fire\u2014 but unlike other far-right groups, NSC-131 generally don\u2019t announce their actions. And that\u2019s why the Potato Parade was a game-changer\u2014 because it was as good as an announcement.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Guessing that NSC would use the parade for recruitment, Lauren and I kept an eye out for what was going on\u2014 and when a friend spotted their \u201cKeep Boston Irish\u201d flag, we got there as quick as we could. I filmed, while Lauren held up a sign in front of them which read, \u201cNAZI CUCKS\u201d\u2014 which I honestly think was a little generous.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Once Lauren explained to the crowd who NSC-131 were, they started screaming at them and giving them the finger. And when Lauren turned the sign around so NSC could see, NSC started to pack up their stuff to leave.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"341\" data-attachment-id=\"10972\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/idavox.com\/2-nazi-cucks\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2-nazi-cucks.png?fit=1355%2C723&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1355,723\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"2 nazi cucks\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2-nazi-cucks.png?fit=640%2C341&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2-nazi-cucks.png?resize=640%2C341&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10972\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2-nazi-cucks.png?resize=1024%2C546&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2-nazi-cucks.png?resize=300%2C160&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2-nazi-cucks.png?resize=768%2C410&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2-nazi-cucks.png?w=1355&amp;ssl=1 1355w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2-nazi-cucks.png?w=1280&amp;ssl=1 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>We left thinking scorn and ridicule achieved, and time to go home. But, instead of switching into some other clothes, NSC continued their cosplay routine with their matching IRA uniforms, marching right down Dot Avenue when we spotted them once again. So, we skipped up along-side them, and I started singing the lumbering \u201cDumpty-dump\u201d Nazi-ridicule song. I tried to get to the front of their line as quickly as possible to directly make fun of their leader, Chris Hood.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"174\" data-attachment-id=\"10973\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/idavox.com\/3-nsc-cosplay\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/3-nsc-cosplay.png?fit=1476%2C401&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1476,401\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"3 nsc cosplay\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/3-nsc-cosplay.png?fit=640%2C174&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/3-nsc-cosplay.png?resize=640%2C174&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10973\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/3-nsc-cosplay.png?resize=1024%2C278&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/3-nsc-cosplay.png?resize=300%2C82&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/3-nsc-cosplay.png?resize=768%2C209&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/3-nsc-cosplay.png?w=1476&amp;ssl=1 1476w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/3-nsc-cosplay.png?w=1280&amp;ssl=1 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>But, as it turns out, Chris got arrested at the Parade for public alcohol consumption. This is a fact which is strange, since Hood was arrested by Agent Andy Creed of the Joint Terrorism Task Force, (JTTF). What you need to know about that is that Creed is the Agent that has been hounding my wife and I for over a year. Creed and his FBI partner Steve Kimball have had five Grand Juries convened to investigate Lauren and I for no reason at all\u2014 other than as an attempt to silence and harass us.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"356\" data-attachment-id=\"10974\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/idavox.com\/4-hood-arrested\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/4-hood-arrested.png?fit=1124%2C626&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1124,626\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"4 hood arrested\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/4-hood-arrested.png?fit=640%2C356&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/4-hood-arrested.png?resize=640%2C356&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10974\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/4-hood-arrested.png?resize=1024%2C570&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/4-hood-arrested.png?resize=300%2C167&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/4-hood-arrested.png?resize=768%2C428&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/4-hood-arrested.png?w=1124&amp;ssl=1 1124w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>As part of my research into Creed and Kimball, we uncovered leaked emails showing Creed to have <a href=\"http:\/\/returntothepit.com\/view.php?formid=75989\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">collaborated with North East White Pride<\/a>. So, why would an Agent from the JTTF be arresting *anyone* whatsoever unrelated to terrorism?&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>I\u2019ve got two guesses: Chris Hood is either a Controlled Informant put in place to facilitate FBI\/ JTTF <a href=\"https:\/\/www.urbandictionary.com\/define.php?term=Honeypot\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">honeypots<\/a>, or by arresting Hood on a misdemeanor charge, Creed can give the appearance of fair and balanced investigations. Maybe it\u2019s both\u2014 but they aren\u2019t fooling anyone who\u2019s been paying attention.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>(Take a deep-dive into Agent Creed and his harassment with this <a href=\"https:\/\/youtu.be\/QUcgjQxWCkc\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">documentary on the subject<\/a>.)<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Well, when Lauren and I got to the front of the Nazi chorus line, the Nazis got in my face, and tried to swat my phone out of my hand. They threw a couple sucker punches, and smashed Lauren\u2019s head up against the wall. That was Sunday.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"360\" data-attachment-id=\"10975\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/idavox.com\/5-nsc-gangs-up-on-webber-photo-by-pespisa\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-NSC-gangs-up-on-webber-photo-by-pespisa.jpg?fit=1920%2C1080&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1920,1080\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"5 NSC gangs up on webber photo by pespisa\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-NSC-gangs-up-on-webber-photo-by-pespisa.jpg?fit=640%2C360&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-NSC-gangs-up-on-webber-photo-by-pespisa.jpg?resize=640%2C360&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10975\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-NSC-gangs-up-on-webber-photo-by-pespisa.jpg?resize=1024%2C576&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-NSC-gangs-up-on-webber-photo-by-pespisa.jpg?resize=300%2C169&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-NSC-gangs-up-on-webber-photo-by-pespisa.jpg?resize=768%2C432&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-NSC-gangs-up-on-webber-photo-by-pespisa.jpg?resize=1536%2C864&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-NSC-gangs-up-on-webber-photo-by-pespisa.jpg?w=1920&amp;ssl=1 1920w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/5-NSC-gangs-up-on-webber-photo-by-pespisa.jpg?w=1280&amp;ssl=1 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>We posted <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/RodWebber\/status\/1505940933686222853?s=20&amp;t=aSGF1qTP-XIPw_RVru6oMQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">video of the confrontation<\/a> online, and created a <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/RodWebber\/status\/1505938582208458759?s=20&amp;t=aSGF1qTP-XIPw_RVru6oMQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">twitter thread<\/a> referencing all the past interactions and relevant info, including a link to an NSC-131 propaganda <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/RodWebber\/status\/1506385338750709764?s=20&amp;t=aSGF1qTP-XIPw_RVru6oMQ\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">video <\/a>(now removed) created at the parade utilizing the Dropkick Murphys music as the soundtrack. Before long, a reporter from <a href=\"https:\/\/www.irishcentral.com\/news\/neo-nazi-south-boston-st-patricks-day-parade\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Irish Central <\/a>reached out to me as well as the Dropkick Murphys, leading to a <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DropkickMurphys\/status\/1506433724493320200?s=20&amp;t=9q3gzGkCOkSt7jOYsJLa9Q\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">series of tweets<\/a> between the Dropkick Murphys and NSC-131.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"368\" data-attachment-id=\"10976\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/idavox.com\/6-creed-sitting\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/6-creed-sitting.png?fit=1048%2C602&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1048,602\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"6 creed sitting\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/6-creed-sitting.png?fit=640%2C368&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/6-creed-sitting.png?resize=640%2C368&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10976\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/6-creed-sitting.png?resize=1024%2C588&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/6-creed-sitting.png?resize=300%2C172&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/6-creed-sitting.png?resize=768%2C441&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/6-creed-sitting.png?w=1048&amp;ssl=1 1048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Shortly after, a lawyer for the Dropkick Murphys sent a cease and desist letter to NSC-131 <a href=\"https:\/\/wbznewsradio.iheart.com\/content\/dropkick-murphys-file-cease-and-desist-letter-against-neo-nazis\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">via email.<\/a> Shortly after that, Ken Casey (singer for the Dropkick Murphys) publicly <a href=\"https:\/\/twitter.com\/DropkickMurphys\/status\/1506829202938605571?s=20&amp;t=COChGQ_rJq6Y-BDUhFN10g\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">challenged NSC-131 on Twitter<\/a> to meet them at the M Street park in Southie.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>By Friday, I posted on Twitter that I would be at the park too the next day.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>On Saturday, Lauren and I arrived around 11:30 AM. There were cops everywhere. We spotted JTTF Agent Creed and a couple of guys who were either undercover cops or undercover NSC-131.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>By noon, our friend Shimmy had arrived, as well as a good sized contingent of antifascist in black bloc. The park is divided into an area with basketball and other sports-ball things, and a hill with a memorial, called \u201cMedal of Honor Park.\u201d Lauren and I, etc were congregating on the sports-ball side.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-image\"><figure class=\"aligncenter size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"511\" height=\"417\" data-attachment-id=\"10977\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/idavox.com\/7-antifa-by-lita-xu-ling-kelley\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/7-antifa-by-Lita-Xu%CC%81-Li%CC%81ng-Kelley.png?fit=511%2C417&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"511,417\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"7 antifa by Lita Xu\u0301 Li\u0301ng Kelley\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"&lt;p&gt;Photo by Lita X\u00fa L\u00edng Kelley&lt;\/p&gt;\n\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/7-antifa-by-Lita-Xu%CC%81-Li%CC%81ng-Kelley.png?fit=511%2C417&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/7-antifa-by-Lita-Xu%CC%81-Li%CC%81ng-Kelley.png?resize=511%2C417&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10977\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/7-antifa-by-Lita-Xu%CC%81-Li%CC%81ng-Kelley.png?w=511&amp;ssl=1 511w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/7-antifa-by-Lita-Xu%CC%81-Li%CC%81ng-Kelley.png?resize=300%2C245&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 511px) 100vw, 511px\" \/><figcaption>Photo by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.litakelley.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Lita X\u00fa L\u00edng Kelley<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Around 12:30, Ken and his muscly looking friends began gathering on Medal of Honor Hill. So, we headed over and when we got to the steps leading up to the hill, I was confronted by Ken. Ken said that we had to leave because they wanted to fight, and \u201cwe\u2019re not looking to protest. We\u2019re all on the same side, but they\u2019re not going to show up if you guys are here with your masks.\u201d&nbsp; It was obvious Ken didn\u2019t remember me from when I worked for the band, but I replied that I didn\u2019t have a mask, which prompted him to motion toward black bloc who were carrying an Antifa flag. Ken repeated his refrain that he didn\u2019t want to be on camera, and added, \u201cthey wanna beat someone up,\u201d referring to his muscly friends.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"199\" data-attachment-id=\"10978\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/idavox.com\/8-crowd\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/8-crowd.png?fit=1656%2C514&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1656,514\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"8 crowd\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/8-crowd.png?fit=640%2C199&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/8-crowd.png?resize=640%2C199&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10978\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/8-crowd.png?resize=1024%2C318&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/8-crowd.png?resize=300%2C93&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/8-crowd.png?resize=768%2C238&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/8-crowd.png?resize=1536%2C477&amp;ssl=1 1536w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/8-crowd.png?w=1656&amp;ssl=1 1656w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/8-crowd.png?w=1280&amp;ssl=1 1280w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>But not only was Ken not there to beat up nazis\u2014 it was clear he was against the anti-nazis. Ken was upset that Antifa had messed up his publicity stunt. Sure enough, <a href=\"https:\/\/wbznewsradio.iheart.com\/content\/dropkick-murphys-file-cease-and-desist-letter-against-neo-nazis\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">WBZ Radio confirmed<\/a> that the DKM\u2019s had <strong><em>emailed <\/em><\/strong>the cease and desist letter to the Neo-Nazis. So, if Ken and the Dropkicks really wanted to have a real fight off camera, they would have just replied to the email as NSC had challenged them to do to make the fight private.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>After a couple of minutes of milling in the park, Ken began schmoozing with cops and press. I was wary of Ken\u2019s alliance with the all the Deputy Doolittles milling around, but at that stage was unaware of his emails with NSC, so Lauren and I made nice with him.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Afterward, the strange reports started rolling in.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>One antifascist recalled that Ken pointed her out to his donut-loving friends in blue. She told me that later she had an upsetting interaction with Ken in which he was &#8220;too close for it to be comfortable,&#8221; and Ken shouted at her \u201cdo you know who I am\u201d at her.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As the Dropkicks crowd thinned out, Shimmy, (who is black) was confronted by a man with a basketball, (who I\u2019ll call \u201cJohn\u201d). John complained to Shimmy about BLM burning down America, and shouted \u201call lives matter\u201d in response to Shimmy saying \u201cblack lives matter.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"371\" data-attachment-id=\"10968\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/idavox.com\/9-shimmy-and-john\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/9-shimmy-and-john.png?fit=1042%2C604&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1042,604\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"9 shimmy and john\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/9-shimmy-and-john.png?fit=640%2C371&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/9-shimmy-and-john.png?resize=640%2C371&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10968\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/9-shimmy-and-john.png?resize=1024%2C594&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/9-shimmy-and-john.png?resize=300%2C174&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/9-shimmy-and-john.png?resize=768%2C445&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/9-shimmy-and-john.png?w=1042&amp;ssl=1 1042w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-embed is-type-rich is-provider-twitter wp-block-embed-twitter\"><div class=\"wp-block-embed__wrapper\">\nhttps:\/\/twitter.com\/RodWebber\/status\/1508374765131739137?s=20&#038;t=jFCFlZyNtCnwcgBiTONvWg\n<\/div><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Unaware of Shimmy\u2019s interaction, Lauren and I saw Ken chumming it up with John and the Five-O. Lauren and I didn\u2019t know who it was until we saw video afterward, but we heard them saying that \u201csome of them have weapons in their trunks.\u201d We now know they were referring to Antifa\u2014 but at the time, Ken cryptically walked up to me and whispered, \u201che\u2019s not one of them.\u201d I\u2019m still not sure which \u201cthem\u201d he meant.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>We then got word that antifascists were being arrested on the Summer Street Bridge\u2014so we headed out to the bridge. However, the antifascists were only being detained.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>According to one who asked to be called \u201cJoey,\u201d he was torn out of the back seat, as were the others. The car and their wallets were searched without their consent, and one of the cops was heard to say \u201cfind something to arrest them for.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"296\" data-attachment-id=\"10969\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/idavox.com\/10-car-stopped-by-lita-xu-ling-kelley\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/10-car-stopped-by-Lita-Xu%CC%81-Li%CC%81ng-Kelley.jpg?fit=1080%2C499&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"1080,499\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"10 car stopped by Lita Xu\u0301 Li\u0301ng Kelley\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/10-car-stopped-by-Lita-Xu%CC%81-Li%CC%81ng-Kelley.jpg?fit=640%2C296&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/10-car-stopped-by-Lita-Xu%CC%81-Li%CC%81ng-Kelley.jpg?resize=640%2C296&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10969\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/10-car-stopped-by-Lita-Xu%CC%81-Li%CC%81ng-Kelley.jpg?resize=1024%2C473&amp;ssl=1 1024w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/10-car-stopped-by-Lita-Xu%CC%81-Li%CC%81ng-Kelley.jpg?resize=300%2C139&amp;ssl=1 300w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/10-car-stopped-by-Lita-Xu%CC%81-Li%CC%81ng-Kelley.jpg?resize=768%2C355&amp;ssl=1 768w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/10-car-stopped-by-Lita-Xu%CC%81-Li%CC%81ng-Kelley.jpg?w=1080&amp;ssl=1 1080w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><figcaption>Photo by <a href=\"https:\/\/www.litakelley.com\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">Lita X\u00fa L\u00edng Kelley<\/a><\/figcaption><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>Video evidence shows that John, who Ken was talking to had used his vehicle earlier to trap the antifascists in their vehicles, using a racial slur in the process. He even admits on camera to calling over the police. This is the guy claiming \u201cthey have weapons in their trunk.\u201d&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"640\" height=\"410\" data-attachment-id=\"10970\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/idavox.com\/11-andy-creed\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/11-andy-creed.png?fit=669%2C429&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"669,429\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"11 andy creed\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/11-andy-creed.png?fit=640%2C410&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/11-andy-creed.png?resize=640%2C410&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-10970\" srcset=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/11-andy-creed.png?w=669&amp;ssl=1 669w, https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/idavox.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/11-andy-creed.png?resize=300%2C192&amp;ssl=1 300w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 640px) 100vw, 640px\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p>To no one\u2019s surprise, Agent Creed arrived on the scene. Thankfully, no arrests were made because no crimes were committed by the antifascists, the cops had to let them go.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This brings us full circle\u2014 and why you must always remember:&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>If you let a nazi into a rally you have a nazi rally.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Similarly, if you let a cop into your rally, you have a cop rally.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ken Casey will always be remembered for his very <a href=\"https:\/\/www.hollywoodreporter.com\/news\/music-news\/dropkick-muphys-neo-nazi-beatdown-429779\/\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noreferrer noopener\">public stance against Nazis<\/a> at his shows. But Ken&#8211; pay attention&#8211; and stop inviting the American Gestapo out to round up anti-nazis. The FBI and JTTF are frankly more dangerous than NSC-131. It has never been a good look for the DKMs, and it never will be.<\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>Rod Webber speaks on how the Nationalist Social Club tried to pick a fight with&#8230;<\/p>\n","protected":false},"author":1,"featured_media":10972,"comment_status":"open","ping_status":"open","sticky":false,"template":"","format":"standard","meta":{"nf_dc_page":"","_jetpack_memberships_contains_paid_content":false,"footnotes":"","jetpack_publicize_message":"","jetpack_publicize_feature_enabled":true,"jetpack_social_post_already_shared":true,"jetpack_social_options":{"image_generator_settings":{"template":"highway","default_image_id":0,"font":"","enabled":false},"version":2}},"categories":[7],"tags":[],"class_list":["post-10966","post","type-post","status-publish","format-standard","has-post-thumbnail","hentry","category-us"],"yoast_head":"<!-- This site is optimized with the Yoast SEO plugin v27.5 - https:\/\/yoast.com\/product\/yoast-seo-wordpress\/ -->\n<title>Dealing with Nazis - and a Conflict That Should Not Have Happened &#8211; 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