Rod Webber speaks on how the Nationalist Social Club tried to pick a fight with the Dropkick Murphys and the unfortunate conflicts that transpired last weekend. This is not in any way trying to start a rift with the band but damnit this has to be said. We can resolve this.

Rod Webber

I don’t want to spend my time writing about Neo-Nazis. And I sure as shit don’t want to get my head beaten to a bloody pulp for confronting them… But, as the saying goes, if someone shows up at your rally with a Nazi flag, and no one says or does something about it, you are at a Nazi rally. 

The same concept applies to parades. 

Sadly, as many already know, Neo-Nazis did in fact show up at the Saint Patrick’s Day Parade in Boston on March 20th… And according to most of the local papers, (including The Boston Globe), no one said or did anything about these Neo-Nazis.

On the surface, it was harmless enough—right? Leprechauns and Lucky Charms and streams of green beer flowing through the streets… And Neo-Nazis… 

The Saint Paddy’s Parade is now inclusive of the LGBTQ community… And it’s got Neo-Nazis. 

It’s been nineteen years since a drunken gunman shot four people at the Holyoke Parade in 2003… So, shouldn’t that absolve Boston of being chummy with the Neo-Nazis?

Just so you don’t think I’m shitting on Boston or The Irish, I was born in Boston, I’m English-Irish-German, and I was Director of Photography for The Dropkick Murphys “The Meanest of Times” documentary. That said, having grown up around it, I have always seen Saint Patrick’s Day as a celebration of Irish Supremacy. So, maybe we shouldn’t have been surprised that Neo-Nazis saw the parade as an opportunity to spread white supremacy. 

I know my wife Lauren Pespisa and I weren’t surprised. 

As a little background on the group— NSC is the abbreviation for Nationalist Socialist Club, (nazi club). And 131 refers to the letters of the alphabet ACA, or “anti-communist action.” Three of their members are now doing time in prison for violent crimes— one of them for being a pedophile— and this isn’t our first time dealing with these CHUDs. They’ve been showing up at rallies around the NorthEast for a couple of years— but recently their numbers have swelled— likely as a result of members of Patriot Front filling their ranks. 

Every other week, they’ve been doing a new banner drop. Anti-fascists are quick to get them right down and set them on fire— but unlike other far-right groups, NSC-131 generally don’t announce their actions. And that’s why the Potato Parade was a game-changer— because it was as good as an announcement. 

Guessing that NSC would use the parade for recruitment, Lauren and I kept an eye out for what was going on— and when a friend spotted their “Keep Boston Irish” flag, we got there as quick as we could. I filmed, while Lauren held up a sign in front of them which read, “NAZI CUCKS”— which I honestly think was a little generous. 

Once Lauren explained to the crowd who NSC-131 were, they started screaming at them and giving them the finger. And when Lauren turned the sign around so NSC could see, NSC started to pack up their stuff to leave.

We left thinking scorn and ridicule achieved, and time to go home. But, instead of switching into some other clothes, NSC continued their cosplay routine with their matching IRA uniforms, marching right down Dot Avenue when we spotted them once again. So, we skipped up along-side them, and I started singing the lumbering “Dumpty-dump” Nazi-ridicule song. I tried to get to the front of their line as quickly as possible to directly make fun of their leader, Chris Hood.

But, as it turns out, Chris got arrested at the Parade for public alcohol consumption. This is a fact which is strange, since Hood was arrested by Agent Andy Creed of the Joint Terrorism Task Force, (JTTF). What you need to know about that is that Creed is the Agent that has been hounding my wife and I for over a year. Creed and his FBI partner Steve Kimball have had five Grand Juries convened to investigate Lauren and I for no reason at all— other than as an attempt to silence and harass us. 

As part of my research into Creed and Kimball, we uncovered leaked emails showing Creed to have collaborated with North East White Pride. So, why would an Agent from the JTTF be arresting *anyone* whatsoever unrelated to terrorism? 

I’ve got two guesses: Chris Hood is either a Controlled Informant put in place to facilitate FBI/ JTTF honeypots, or by arresting Hood on a misdemeanor charge, Creed can give the appearance of fair and balanced investigations. Maybe it’s both— but they aren’t fooling anyone who’s been paying attention. 

(Take a deep-dive into Agent Creed and his harassment with this documentary on the subject.)

Well, when Lauren and I got to the front of the Nazi chorus line, the Nazis got in my face, and tried to swat my phone out of my hand. They threw a couple sucker punches, and smashed Lauren’s head up against the wall. That was Sunday.

We posted video of the confrontation online, and created a twitter thread referencing all the past interactions and relevant info, including a link to an NSC-131 propaganda video (now removed) created at the parade utilizing the Dropkick Murphys music as the soundtrack. Before long, a reporter from Irish Central reached out to me as well as the Dropkick Murphys, leading to a series of tweets between the Dropkick Murphys and NSC-131. 

Shortly after, a lawyer for the Dropkick Murphys sent a cease and desist letter to NSC-131 via email. Shortly after that, Ken Casey (singer for the Dropkick Murphys) publicly challenged NSC-131 on Twitter to meet them at the M Street park in Southie. 

By Friday, I posted on Twitter that I would be at the park too the next day.

On Saturday, Lauren and I arrived around 11:30 AM. There were cops everywhere. We spotted JTTF Agent Creed and a couple of guys who were either undercover cops or undercover NSC-131. 

By noon, our friend Shimmy had arrived, as well as a good sized contingent of antifascist in black bloc. The park is divided into an area with basketball and other sports-ball things, and a hill with a memorial, called “Medal of Honor Park.” Lauren and I, etc were congregating on the sports-ball side. 

Around 12:30, Ken and his muscly looking friends began gathering on Medal of Honor Hill. So, we headed over and when we got to the steps leading up to the hill, I was confronted by Ken. Ken said that we had to leave because they wanted to fight, and “we’re not looking to protest. We’re all on the same side, but they’re not going to show up if you guys are here with your masks.”  It was obvious Ken didn’t remember me from when I worked for the band, but I replied that I didn’t have a mask, which prompted him to motion toward black bloc who were carrying an Antifa flag. Ken repeated his refrain that he didn’t want to be on camera, and added, “they wanna beat someone up,” referring to his muscly friends. 

But not only was Ken not there to beat up nazis— it was clear he was against the anti-nazis. Ken was upset that Antifa had messed up his publicity stunt. Sure enough, WBZ Radio confirmed that the DKM’s had emailed the cease and desist letter to the Neo-Nazis. So, if Ken and the Dropkicks really wanted to have a real fight off camera, they would have just replied to the email as NSC had challenged them to do to make the fight private.

After a couple of minutes of milling in the park, Ken began schmoozing with cops and press. I was wary of Ken’s alliance with the all the Deputy Doolittles milling around, but at that stage was unaware of his emails with NSC, so Lauren and I made nice with him.

Afterward, the strange reports started rolling in.

One antifascist recalled that Ken pointed her out to his donut-loving friends in blue. She told me that later she had an upsetting interaction with Ken in which he was “too close for it to be comfortable,” and Ken shouted at her “do you know who I am” at her.

As the Dropkicks crowd thinned out, Shimmy, (who is black) was confronted by a man with a basketball, (who I’ll call “John”). John complained to Shimmy about BLM burning down America, and shouted “all lives matter” in response to Shimmy saying “black lives matter.”

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Unaware of Shimmy’s interaction, Lauren and I saw Ken chumming it up with John and the Five-O. Lauren and I didn’t know who it was until we saw video afterward, but we heard them saying that “some of them have weapons in their trunks.” We now know they were referring to Antifa— but at the time, Ken cryptically walked up to me and whispered, “he’s not one of them.” I’m still not sure which “them” he meant.

We then got word that antifascists were being arrested on the Summer Street Bridge—so we headed out to the bridge. However, the antifascists were only being detained. 

According to one who asked to be called “Joey,” he was torn out of the back seat, as were the others. The car and their wallets were searched without their consent, and one of the cops was heard to say “find something to arrest them for.” 

Video evidence shows that John, who Ken was talking to had used his vehicle earlier to trap the antifascists in their vehicles, using a racial slur in the process. He even admits on camera to calling over the police. This is the guy claiming “they have weapons in their trunk.” 

To no one’s surprise, Agent Creed arrived on the scene. Thankfully, no arrests were made because no crimes were committed by the antifascists, the cops had to let them go.

This brings us full circle— and why you must always remember: 

If you let a nazi into a rally you have a nazi rally.

Similarly, if you let a cop into your rally, you have a cop rally.

Ken Casey will always be remembered for his very public stance against Nazis at his shows. But Ken– pay attention– and stop inviting the American Gestapo out to round up anti-nazis. The FBI and JTTF are frankly more dangerous than NSC-131. It has never been a good look for the DKMs, and it never will be.